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SPEAKER_00: Hi, this is Shelley
Treacher from the Binge and
Overeating Recovery Podcast.
This podcast is all about
helping you to recognize, to
understand, to manage and to
overcome emotional eating.
So today I thought it'd be a
good time to brush up on exactly
what I'm trying to get at here.
I'm going to explain again what
emotional eating is and what it
really takes to stop.
First, I'm going to answer a
question that people ask me all
of the time.
They ask, does it have to be
emotional?
And they're asking whether there
really is an emotional thing
behind comfort eating.
I find that generally people
become wary of me when I start
talking about the emotional side
of binge eating or of anything
in actual fact.
They often immediately assume a
posture or an attitude of
defense.
And it's quite clear that they
want me to stop this line of
inquiry or talking about things
in an emotional way.
Some people even get quite
aggressive about it.
We all overeat or eat junk food
to a lesser or greater degree.
So is it actually emotional for
all of us?
I honestly think the answer is
actually yes.
Even if it is just an
association or a habit, we are
emotional creatures, whether we
like it or not, and we have
complex psychologies.
I don't think there can be much
that we do that doesn't actually
involve emotion.
Even if it is just that it feels
nice to eat that particular
thing at that particular time,
this is still an emotional
response.
It's just that for many of us
it's gone out of control.
And understandably, like any
addiction, tolerance levels
creep up for the substance that
we consume and habit increases
quickly.
We don't like the idea that
we're losing control.
It's hard to admit that.
But clearly, overeating is a big
problem in our culture.
Collectively, this has gone out
of control for all of us.
But especially now.
We still live in a society that
prizes action and toughness.
Not wanting to admit emotion or
vulnerability belies a survival
fear of failure and rejection,
and an aversion to difficulty.
This is often what I see in the
eyes of the person who wants me
to stop talking about emotion.
We love a quick fix as humans.
We are averse to pain and
discomfort by nature.
We are pleasure seeking.
So we instinctively go for the
thing that we think will feel
good immediately.
Some people are more attracted
to this than others.
What determines whether we are
more pleasure seeking or quick
fix oriented than others?
Probably partly how we've
developed and what we've learnt
as we grew up.
But could it also be the level
of discomfort?
It may not be immediately
recognizable what emotions lie
underneath comfort eating, but
somewhere there may be a
discomfort of some kind,
demanding to be soothed or
dissolved.
In my experience, it's often the
most sensitive of people who
struggle with addictions.
That's not to knock the
sensitive, in fact, in my book,
they or I should say we are the
most interesting of all the
creatures on the planet, because
we are the warm and caring ones
who are creative and connective.
The planet needs us.
It's just that some people have
lost their way, in the pursuit
of toughness and productivity so
prized in our cultures.
You've heard it said that a
large part of what we do is
unconscious.
Something I know as a therapist
is that it can be a difficult
job getting to know the
unconscious.
What we really feel can be
buried very deeply, particularly
if we've used a substance that
numbs repeatedly.
But once there, it's the only
way I know how to heal,
psychologically, because the one
way to change the unconscious is
through the unconscious.
So a question to determine
whether your eating is comfort
eating or not could be what
would you be left with if you
didn't do it?
Something I also hear people say
a lot is that it's hard to be
addicted to something that we
have to use every day to
survive.
And it's true.
Ideally we would be able to
enjoy some comfort foods without
having to devour the whole
packet, the entire cupboard, or
without thinking obsessively
about eating.
But my thoughts around this are
that it takes a huge mindset
shift to stop emotional eating,
the same as it would for any
addiction.
And that the actual substance
you're addicted to is not really
the point.
More that it's about squashing
emotion.
So this is the thing that needs
to change in order to stop.
So now I'm going to give you a
recap of what I really think it
takes to give up comfort eating
and binge eating.
In my work, giving up comfort
eating is something that happens
naturally when you uncover
what's going on in your psyche
and then take steps to learn to
treat yourself better.
It does take an active decision,
but only once you understand
what you're doing.
I could have chosen so many
different steps, but these are
the ones that it boils down to.
Number one, you need to identify
why it is that you want to stop.
This has to be real and
motivating.
One of my clients said recently
that she wanted to be able to
play with her granddaughter.
I was really touched by that,
and I believed her.
I can imagine that when she's
trying not to comfort eat, she
might think of the times when
she wants to get up and play
with her granddaughter.
It must be so frustrating not to
be able to do this thing that
connects you with love and
happiness.
So it needs to be emotion.
You need to have emotion
attached to the thing, the
reason that's going to motivate
you to stop.
And that's just a start.
A really good start.
Number two.
Identify and challenge your
habits around food.
Be honest with yourself about
what you eat and when.
Notice any habits that you're
entrenched in, and attempt to do
something slightly different or
largely different.
I encourage you to be
experimental here.
I recently started eating my
main meal around lunchtime
because that's when I'm actually
hungry.
What I'd been doing previously
was trying to starve myself to
save myself up for the evening,
knowing that I was likely to
snack in the evening after
dinner.
Somehow, through eating a big
lunch and allowing myself to
plan in the snacking as food
later in that evening, I'm more
satisfied and less likely to go
out of control at any time.
I've done another podcast on
eating in the evening, so you
might want to check that one
out.
But this is just an example of a
little habit that you can switch
just to try something different
so you don't have that
association anymore, and the
more you practice that, the more
uncoupled the association will
become.
Start to observe, to study, and
be curious about how you respond
to life and what's going on in
your psyche.
This is about starting to get to
know yourself on a psychological
level.
What gets you riled up?
What do you enjoy?
When someone asks you to do
something, do you always say
yes?
If you're tired, do you s give
yourself a rest?
What are the thoughts in your
head just before you binge eat?
My first podcast was about
identifying emotional eating.
This is also a great one for
starting to learn about
yourself.
Number four.
It's important, prolific, and
pivotal in steps to recovery
because it's the critic that
makes you want to eat.
Mostly.
So identifying what thoughts you
were having just before you ate,
and in particular looking out
for ways you put yourself down
is going to be a huge step for
you.
This can be really hard to
identify when you're in such a
habit of it, so start by
identifying the thoughts, just
the thoughts, and then ask
yourself whether you would say
what you've identified to a
child or to your best friend.
If you wouldn't, it's usually a
self-criticism.
And you are more likely to have
an emotional response to it, one
of upset or frustration, i.e.
feeling crappy, and this will
make you want to eat.
My second podcast was on
self-criticism, so you might
want to go and have a look at
that one again, but I'm also
going to talk more in depth
about it next week.
Step five.
This step leads on from the last
one.
Identify and be kind to yourself
or attend to your inner child or
your feelings.
Learning to identify the part of
you that has that emotional
response or feels crappy is what
I'm talking about here.
I'm calling it your inner child
because it's an instinctive and
primitive feeling.
But it is also something that
may feel very young, and you may
have had that feeling first when
you were a child.
So your next mindset shift is to
learn to be compassionate to
that part of you.
This again is a massive step,
and it's going to make all the
difference.
Step six.
The last part of this little
equation is reversing the
criticism with a more reasonable
thought.
So for example, if I think, oh
you idiot, you shouldn't have
done it that way.
I might feel ashamed or stupid
or hurt.
That's the part I'm calling the
inner child.
My adult would come in and say
don't talk to my child like
that.
She was only doing her best and
deserves love always.
You did it that way because
you're human.
Now let's try a different way.
There's always time to try
again.
I'm hoping that you can see the
difference there.
Step seven.
In order to be able to maximize
on all of these techniques that
I've mentioned so far and to
really grow into someone who
chooses not to comfort eat
naturally, something that has to
be learned is to manage feelings
in a different way.
Once you've identified what
feelings you have underneath
eating, you need to learn A that
emotions are not to be avoided,
B that they are helpful in
understanding who you are, what
you want and what you need, and
C that there are other ways to
manage them in a different, more
empowering way.
My last five podcasts at least
have been about this, and I will
be continuing to talk about it.
The final step, step eight,
expand your resourcefulness and
self soothing.
This is kind of an extension of
the last step of step seven, but
it is something that can be
practiced on its own, and it's
so rewarding.
I also did a podcast on this
You're looking for the eight
ways to self regulate two
podcasts ago.
So much of this is about healing
from your past and addressing
the developmental reasons why
you started eating in the first
place to comfort yourself.
Addressing the beliefs that
you've built up about who you
are and what you're allowed to
do in life.
What I'm suggesting is expanding
these possibilities to include
kindness to yourself.
This way you will naturally make
better choices for yourself all
round through your developing
self-confidence.
It is a big deal.
It's not an easy job, but it is
achievable.
And you might need some support.
So I know that that was a lot.
We're packed a lot into a few
minutes there, and you might be
wondering where you can start.
So I would suggest starting by
identifying the emotion that
causes your eating and your
self-critic.
Get up and do something
different to what you normally
do, and start learning about how
to treat yourself well.
We've come to the end of the
podcast for today.
Thank you very much for
listening.
I would love to answer your
questions, so if you have any,
please be in touch.
As usual, anything you tell me
is completely confidential, and
I guarantee that there's many
people out there that would be
benefited from your question.
Next week I'll be talking about
your self-critic, how you can
identify how you put yourself
down, where that comes from,
what it's like for you, what it
does to you, and what huge part
it plays in comfort eating and
binge eating.
Next week will help you
understand.
But if you want further help, my
support group is coming out
really soon, so please be in
touch.
Thank you so much for being with
me.
I'll see you next Wednesday.