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SPEAKER_00: Hi, and welcome to
Overeating Recovery.
Do you feel compelled to overeat
but wish that you could stop?
Or perhaps you know that your
emotions drive your eating, but
you don't really know what to do
about it.
In these podcasts, I talk about
the side of overeating that
nobody really talks about.
The emotional and the
psychological side.
There are reasons why you can't
stop eating, and that's what we
explore here.
Here, I'll support you on your
journey of awareness to stopping
binge eating altogether.
I am your host, Shelley
Treacher.
Welcome.
Today, as it's nearly
Valentine's Day, I thought I'd
talk about some aspects of
relationship and overeating.
So today I'm going to talk about
firstly how overeating can be
caused by some relational
aspects.
I'm going to talk about one in
particular that's quite common
for emotional eaters, and that's
people pleasing.
And then the last part of this
podcast today, I'm going to talk
about how relationships can be
used for more support with
emotional eating.
Something that emotional eaters
aren't very good at and needs to
improve.
So I'm going to talk about how
you can start to do that.
So during COVID-19, obviously
we've all been called to
question our relationship
choices and status.
For some of us, it's been a
massive bonus to spend more time
with our families and the people
that we love.
But for a lot of us, it's either
been a challenge to spend so
much time with these same
people, or it's been really
isolating to be so alone.
But whether you're single, in
relationship, or living with
family during this time, in this
podcast I'll be encouraging
curiosity about how you got
where you are today and offering
ways to increase your confidence
in that situation.
Whatever it is.
This is specifically for you if
you resonate with feeling tired
and overwhelmed by people or if
you find yourself in difficult
relationships.
Fundamentally, how we learn to
relate early on in life and
through the rest of our lives
affects comfort eating.
One of the things that most
comfort eaters I see have in
common is a natural inclination
to ignore their own needs, as
I've already talked about.
In favour though, of putting
other people's needs ahead of
their own.
These are people who are always
looking after other people.
They go out of their way to be
kind and helpful.
They will likely feel a little
bit burdened and exhausted
because they'll be looking after
an elderly relative, have kids,
be supporting their partner,
have their partner's family in
their lives, have emotionally
unstable and depressed friends
possibly, and hold down a
stressful job.
So they might be doing all of
these things or some of them,
but you know, one of these
things would be quite enough for
most people.
But even if it doesn't look
exactly like this, you'll
recognise yourself by feeling
exhausted from being the person
who does everything.
You're the one who's
responsible.
These are the people that
everyone turns to for emotional
advice or support, because these
people are sensitive, warm and
caring.
They will listen and they will
be there for you when the chips
are down.
Don't they sound amazing?
And they are.
They are amazing.
These people are amazing.
They're warm and kind and have
all the qualities that you would
look for in a friend.
Interestingly, actually, when I
ask my groups what qualities
they look for in a friend, it's
always these qualities.
It's always these that they
themselves possess.
It's just that it's such a
stretch for them to view
themselves positively.
But I digress.
The point I need to make here is
that this comes at a really
gigantic cost to themselves
because they just don't attend
to their own needs or emotional
well-being in the same way as
they would to somebody else.
Their own needs get squashed for
the other person's well-being,
needs, and desires.
And this internal squashing is
what often leads to comfort
eating.
I had a client recently who
realised that her availability
to others had stopped her from
having anything for herself.
And this included exercise, she
realized, which she used to
love.
It's from her that I get this
quote that I'm I'm often saying
now.
Be a nice person, but just don't
waste your time proving it.
And now that she is saying no
more, she has the energy to
exercise and to do other things.
Can you relate to any of this?
Are you someone who will say yes
when you really want to say no,
but you feel that you can't?
Do you pretend to agree when
secretly you don't actually
agree and you're exhausted?
Are you a people pleaser?
If you are, you're in really
good company.
But clearly it's something that
needs to shift a little if
you're to stop overeating.
And it's something you have to
look a little deeper into to
understand where it comes from,
why it's there, and what to do
about it.
People pleasing often relates to
being deathly afraid of conflict
and rejection, and a feeling of
not being lovable.
This often stems from how we
were treated by our primary
caregivers, so it needs a little
unpacking.
One question you can ask to
understand yourself is what is
so awful about rejection?
It's a big question and takes
some time to answer, so you can
stop the recording here and take
in that question.
What's so awful about rejection?
What is it that you're afraid
will happen if you say no to
somebody?
What is it you're afraid of
feeling if someone rejects you
or doesn't like your real
choices?
I know that might sound scary
and it definitely does to a lot
of people because you know most
of us care what other people
think of us, but really it's
just information about you,
about how you're organized and
what your belief systems are.
It's something to be worked on
and to lean into and to learn to
be really compassionate and
resourceful with yourself about.
And that is possible.
To find safety within yourself
enough to cope with the idea of
potential rejection.
How invincible would you be if
you could do that, eh?
I mentioned that behind a fear
of rejection often lies the
belief that you are unlovable.
So you can ask yourself what
exactly is it that makes you
unlovable?
This is another big question
that takes a while to sink in
and process, so you can stop the
podcast again if you need to.
What exactly is it that makes
you unlovable?
What do you not love about
yourself?
What do you think other people
don't love about you?
Be as specific as you can.
Often, when we explore this in
my practice, it's actually
really difficult for people to
pinpoint what is so awful about
them.
Often it's difficult for people
to come up with any real reason.
Sometimes people say things
like, I'm irritating, I'm too
loud, I'm too sensitive.
But these are all criticisms
that the person has heard said
to them at some point in their
lives, maybe repetitively, maybe
recently even, but definitely
that goes back a while.
Usually a primary caregiver will
have said something like this,
and they may have meant it or
they may not have meant it, and
you may have interpreted it as
the criticism that it sounds
like.
Don't these things really say a
lot more about the tolerance
level of the person criticising
you if they meant it?
Aren't they just possibly a
basic incompatibility?
In that communication at least?
Being called irritating could
stem from a person who is quite
irritated and stressed out
themselves, and so he or she
finds anyone who has any need,
beyond their capacity right now,
irritating.
Therefore, it's possible they
find themselves irritating, but
blame everyone else for it.
Maybe they were even taught this
by their parents and caregivers.
In a similar way to the last few
questions, what exactly is it
that's irritating about you?
What's really true about this
criticism?
Do you find this quality about
you irritating?
And if you do, could you start
to be compassionate about that
and challenge it or understand
it?
Being too loud, being accused of
being too loud, could be
interpreted as well just being
too loud could be enthusiastic,
it could be sociable, it could
be fun, it could be passionate,
active, expressive, or tangible
even, by different people.
Everyone would interpret it
differently.
Being sensitive is a beautiful
gift, especially in my book.
It means you're probably full of
warmth, empathy, perception, and
intuition.
All of the things that I value
and most of my clients value,
maybe human beings value.
Mostly, this criticism of being
too sensitive is levelled by
people who cannot tolerate
emotion, particularly in that
moment.
But the real problem here is
that the criticism we perceive
around us tends to reflect the
internal criticism we carry
around with us.
We attract people who treat us
in the same way as our primary
caregivers treated us, or in the
same way as we treat ourselves.
Often they're all the same
pattern, so challenge yourself
not to be this critic.
Learn to say no to your critic,
as well as to the criticism of
others.
I did a podcast on the inner
critic, that was podcast two.
You might want to explore that.
That's about how to be more
compassionate with yourself.
The link will be in the
information about this podcast.
I'm also going to post some
other links actually in the
podcast description.
And there's one about saying no.
Here are some ways that you can
say no.
You can just say no without any
explanation.
You can say no, thank you, but
again without any explanation.
Or no, I don't want to.
Or thanks, not right now.
No, but thank you for the offer.
No, but thank you for thinking
of me.
I really appreciate it.
That's so kind of you, but I
have to decline.
I have decided not to.
So notice that none of these
offer an excuse or put you in a
state of apology.
Is that a familiar place for you
to be, to be apologizing and
feeling bad, shameful, guilty
for saying no to somebody?
So now, if you think about
saying one of these things to
somebody, you'll imagine what
their response might be.
You might have a specific person
in your mind, and this starts to
answer the question of what
you're afraid of if you say no.
So this is valuable information.
One of my favourite quotes is by
Robert Frost.
Two roads diverged in a wood,
and I I took the one less
travelled by.
And that has made all the
difference.
This quote means such a lot to
me because I've often gone
against what appears to be the
norm.
Despite opposition from friends,
family, culture, I've always
been on the path of valuing
emotional well-being, feelings,
self-employment, and empowered,
loving independence.
People sometimes think being
boundaried, being able to say
yes or no in response to the
needs of others, is an act of
selfishness.
I think it's an act of love.
Firstly, to myself, but also as
a message of clarity of what I
can and can't offer in
relationship.
And that really has led to me
living a life of connection,
expansiveness and fulfilment,
which is what I want for you.
Or at least that's part of
giving up comfort eating and
emotional eating, becoming more
engaged with what you need.
There'll also be a link here to
the Centre of Nonviolent
Communications list of needs,
but I'm just gonna say some to
you so that you know what you're
working towards.
Just to list what needs human
beings actually have, just so
that you can get familiar with
the vocabulary and the idea of
having needs and what it is you
might need.
So there a lot of them are to do
with connection, and some of the
things underneath connection or
that we get through connection
is acceptance, affection,
compassion, companionship, love
and mutuality, nurturing and
respect.
So seem these are some of the
needs that you might have.
Or you might have a need for
safety, to know and be known, to
be understood, warmth.
So those are needs that you
might have in relationship.
And of course you might have
physical needs, like needing air
and food, or movement, exercise,
rest, sleep, sexual expression,
safety, shelter, touch.
If you're somebody who squashes
your needs and your feelings
with food, any one of these
physical, emotional, relational
needs might be suppressed.
So now let's turn to the second
part of this podcast about
support and relationships.
The most secure people on our
planet have absolutely no
trouble asking for support from
other people, where the
emotional eater will question
whether it's even okay to want
help.
The emotional eater is often
brought up to be extremely
self-sufficient and so relies on
very few people.
One of the ways I see people
have success with emotional
eating and well-being is by
becoming more expressive and
authentic.
Firstly with themselves or with
me and my group, and then with
other people.
Yes, a few friends can be lost
by learning to say no, but often
this is not a terrible thing in
the end.
I see lots of people's
relational life develop and
change for the better over time.
The more people engage in their
own well-being emotionally and
the more they take time for
themselves, the more they gain
energy, loving friendships and
relationships, all of which
contributes to whether they need
to overeat or not.
The more they can be open, the
more support they're likely to
have.
So far in this podcast, I've
talked about inner resources as
a way of negotiating emotional
eating.
But the emotional eater is also
gonna stand a much better chance
of cutting out emotional eating
if he or she has got other
people to rely on as well.
We rely on other people to
co-regulate, just in everyday
life.
That's part of the reason why
this lockdown and isolation is
so hard.
We're either regulating alone or
we're regulating with the same
people who might also not be
very well regulated.
When we overeat or when we
squash ourselves for somebody
else, our physiological system
suffers.
We become tense or frozen, like
in fight or flight, and it takes
a conscious decision and
practice to bring the nervous
system back down to a relaxed
state, or to come back into our
bodies.
So I'm going to guide you
through a little exercise you
can try to bring back balance
and relaxation to your body.
There's something we call the
window of tolerance, and that's
where you want to be.
It's where a certain part of
your nervous system, the
parasympathetic nervous system,
comes back online and you start
to breathe more easily and slow
down.
Fortunately, there are tons of
little tricks and tips you can
try just to bring that system
back online.
Lie on your back, on the floor,
or somewhere comfortable, and
just turn your head with your
eyes open as far as you can to
one side.
And then you just stay there
until you achieve a deep sigh or
a breath or a yawn or you cry.
And then you repeat the same
thing on the other side.
Turn your head as far as you can
with your eyes open, looking in
the direction that you're
looking in as far as you can,
until your breath just naturally
comes to you.
And then that's a really lovely
feeling.
When we talk about ourselves to
friends, to friends who accept
us and understand us, we
experience similar shifts in our
nervous system.
Have you had that experience?
Where you've just felt so much
better for getting something out
and off your chest, to someone
who understands, especially when
it's been really received well
by someone who gets you.
That's normal, and it's part of
what we need as human beings,
and it's part of our birthright
and normal functioning.
We just feel better when we can
be honest about ourselves with
each other.
We feel bonded, we feel safe, we
feel regulated, and that we
belong.
It's both energy releasing and
energizing.
So is there anyone in your life
that you could be re-opening up
a little bit more to or a little
bit more regularly?
Taking the risk of being a
little bit more honest with.
Of course you have to be
discerning with who you really
open yourself up to at first,
but I have to say, often people
can respond much better than you
might expect them to.
It's often the internal critic
that convinces us of a terrible
response.
I see a lot of relationships
deepen when people become more
authentic and real.
It's something many of us really
value, especially now.
But here's where I'll just add a
tiny caveat.
If you're in an abusive
relationship, you don't want to
start saying no, you want to get
yourself to safety.
The priority is not standing up
for yourself, it's looking after
yourself.
So I encourage you to be a
little bit discerning about who
you are authentic with.
Especially first off, pick
someone you know is going to be
safe.
And then what I see happening,
the more you become practiced in
standing by yourself and opening
up to others, the more people
learn to accept each other's
differences.
And with emotional separation
and boundaries, it's just more
possible to be objective and to
learn not to be drained by
others.
All of this contributes to
stopping overeating because you
can state what you feel and
express what you need and find
the solution to that without
needing to squash everything.
So you see, once again,
attending to your own well-being
is paramount if you're ever to
stop emotional eating.
I'm gonna finish on some
questions that will help you to
summarise what we've talked
about, but help you to identify
what you need to be working on
to find support for your
emotional well-being and support
for your journey to eating less.
And the first question is: are
you a people pleaser?
Which you can identify from
recognising whether you're tired
from looking after other people
or from listening to them a lot.
Do you find yourself with the
wrong people who don't
appreciate you?
Are you tolerant of troublesome
and toxic relationships?
Do you avoid social contact?
And why is that?
And then we moved on to needs.
So what do you do with your
needs and what do you want?
How do you treat yourself?
Do you treat yourself the way
others who don't appreciate you
treat you?
We also talked about feeling
unlovable.
Is feeling unlovable blocking
you from showing up for
yourself?
Does it close you off from
opportunity?
Like, do you receive compliments
or do you just brush them off
without acknowledging them?
If you have already identified
that you might be squashing
yourself and feeling unlovable,
here are some questions that can
help you start to shift.
What would you have to give up
in order to regulate?
Would it be just going along
with what others want of you,
keeping company with people who
have no capacity for kindness?
Berating yourself?
Avoiding people?
Assuming nobody likes you?
And what qualities and skills or
capacities would you actually
have to cultivate?
Being more boundaried about your
time?
Looking after yourself more?
Saying no?
Appreciating the love that you
have?
Or creating good habits that
feed your happiness, like
connecting with nature or just
doing something for fun?
Being kinder to yourself and
what you say to yourself.
And what could you really?
Read or research that would
actually help you to do this.
Often underlying overeating is
the need to stuff ourselves
down.
And underlying that is
self-blame.
My hope on this COVID-19
Valentine's Day in 2021 is to
start to help you let go of that
self-blame.
The way out of feeling used and
burdened in COVID-19 isolation
on this Valentine's Day and on
any other day is to find the
love within you.
Your heart is the most
consistent and passionate
resource that you've got.
You are so good at using it to
help others.
It's now time to start owning
that and turning it on yourself.
So that's it for today.
If you want some support, you
can join my Facebook group,
Comfort Eating Recovery Support
Group, with Shelly Treacher.
I also have another group which
you might be interested in.
As well as working with Comfort
Eating, I also work with people
to find engaged relationship and
to find love.
So you're welcome to join my
Love Dating and Relationship
Recovery Support Group for Women
on Facebook.
If you're wanting to go further
with either of those subjects, I
have programmes and they're both
enrolling now for March.
Please be in touch and have a
look on my website,
www.bristolcounselling.co.uk.
Thank you so much for listening
today and happy Valentine's Day!