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SPEAKER_00: Hi, this is Shelly
Treacher from the Binge and
Overeating Recovery Podcast.
Today's podcast is the final
instalment in a four-part series
about giving up refined sugar
for a month.
I've been talking about how to
cope emotionally without comfort
food.
This is day 17.
Here I talk about what happens
after the first 14 days of my
detox.
This is usually when the
enthusiasm and novelty of
creating a new habit wears off
for us.
On this day, I talk about how I
get different parts of me
communicating.
I talk about my rebellious,
petulant child and my more
broad-thinking adult.
I also start talking about the
physical benefits of my detox.
If you've seen my habits
podcast, my podcast about how to
give up a very strong habit,
you'll know that there is
research that says, and it's
very commonly known, that 14
days, after 14 days, it's really
difficult.
It becomes more and more
difficult after the first 14
days.
First 14 days, you're excited
about it, you've got emotion
about it, and you've got reasons
and drive.
After 14 days, apparently, it
just becomes less interesting to
us.
We have less emotion attached to
it.
And I can testify that that is
actually a little bit true.
Day 17, I'm still not eating
sugar, so I have managed it.
But it has been different this
week.
There have been persistence,
just kind of a falling back into
an old habit of thinking, right,
chocolate this time of day,
which would be mid-morning for
me.
And then remembering that, oh
no, I'm actually giving up
sugar.
It's kind of like I forgot that
this is the big thing that I'm
doing at the moment.
And so it's been persistent.
Again, there's this been this
nagging voice wanting me to eat
chocolate.
And I have to say, sometimes
that has been a petulant child
voice that's been saying
something like, I want it, but I
want it.
Why can't I have it?
This is what I'm used to, this
is what I want, it's going to
make me feel better.
I want it.
Do you recognise that voice?
Can you identify with that?
So I've been treating my little
girl voice with uh care, but
I've also been her adult, and
I've brought out my adult voice,
knowing my new habit is to stop
eating sugar this week.
And I've been saying to her, I
hear what you're saying.
I get that you feel like you
really need this thing and
you're used to having it.
I even get that you're having a
little bit of a tantrum right
now.
That's okay, but you're not
gonna have the sugar.
We're gonna try something
different this week, and still
I've got bigger reasons to want
to give up sugar, and they're
important to me.
So just bear with me.
So I've been reasoning with my
little girl, and that might
sound like I'm crazy, but one of
the techniques that you're gonna
find useful is knowing that the
part of you that wants comfort
food is just one part of you,
and the adult part of you that
wants to do something different
is another part of you.
So the idea is to get your parts
talking to each other, and
that's what I've had to do a lot
in the last week.
It has worked.
It has worked, thankfully.
I just want to mention the word
rebellion because I think this
child, this inner voice of, but
I want this, is a really
familiar voice for comfort
eaters, and it could be a
teenager's voice, it could be a
child's voice, but what I hear
so often with my comfort eating
uh clients is that there's a
rebellion.
There's I mean, it may be that
you were starved as a child, so
you're like, no, I'm gonna eat,
or there may be other reasons
that you grew up with where your
primary caregivers might have
been quite controlling in some
way or another, uh, without wish
to put them down, but they were
probably acting out of their
upbringing as well and how they
were brought up.
Um, and you might rebel against
that.
You might be like, No, I'm not
gonna be told what to do, I'm
gonna do what I want to do, and
so that might be something
you're still acting from, and I
recognize that in my child.
Um, there is a deep part of me
that does not like being told
what to do.
I know that's rife at the moment
with a lot of people not wanting
to be vaccinated, not wanting to
wear masks.
Um, I won't get into that
political debate, but we we each
have a rebel inside of us, and
if at any point we've been
restricted early on in life,
there's gonna possibly be a part
of us that then rebels against
that and says, No, I'm gonna do
what I want to do.
And you might be coming from
that when you choose your food.
So my adult came in and said,
That's not a sensible option.
I have something better, which
is great.
So, but the last thing I want to
tell you about is uh my friend
introduced a sugar-free cake to
me.
I'd completely forgotten about
this, and when she introduced it
to me, I'm like, oh, I can have
cake and still have no sugar.
This is amazing.
So I thought I was gonna come on
here and say, you know, you can
cheat, you can have sugar-free
cake or biscuits or even
sugar-free chocolate.
But I've got to say, I didn't
feel really that good about
having it.
I felt like I was cheating for
one thing.
I could forgive myself of that
because I have said all I'm
gonna do is give up refined
sugar, and I have done that to
the point of not eating not
drinking alcohol as well.
But I I there was it was a
chocolate cake, so there was
caffeine and cocoa in it.
I do remember I talked about
having caffeine and not being
perfect in the first week on the
first Friday when I was so
tired.
Um, I didn't have coffee the
following Friday because I was
into this mode now of actually
that's a comfort thing for me.
I'm just I'm preaching,
surrendering to tiredness and
surrendering to emotion.
So I'm gonna do it myself.
I'm gonna not have caffeine last
Friday, so I haven't had
caffeine since, but I'd
forgotten that if I have the
sugar-free chocolate cake,
there'd be a bit of caffeine in
it.
And it did make me a little bit
wired, and I didn't like that.
After two weeks of having a
fairly clean diet, I could
really notice that the caffeine
made me just a little bit edgy
and faster, and I felt like I
wasn't really as in tune with
the good benefits of giving up
sugar.
So I've chosen not to have
caffeine in this month as well.
And the thing I'm illustrating
here is that the more mindful
you become, the more uh well,
the better you treat yourself.
So that was a natural decision I
made, having got more in touch
with what my body actually
enjoys and feels good with.
And that's what can happen when
you start giving up a comfort
food.
It happens organically, it
happens naturally.
So you really only have to cut
out one thing at a time, and
then other things come along.
Um, there is one more thing I
want to tell you because I have
been telling you about the
physical effects of what's going
on for me.
So last week and the week
before, I had a kind of an
aching in my legs and I was
really tired.
This week the aching is gone and
I feel a lot more energized.
I think I look better as well.
If you look at my eyes under my
eyes, I look less tired and my
skin looks a bit better.
So there's physical proof that
giving up sugar is actually good
for you.
And I haven't done anything
else, it's all about the food, I
haven't done the exercise yet.
I'm starting to want to do that,
and I'm starting to do it like
this week.
Um, but that's another organic
change that's happened from
being more mindful.
I really recommend this whole
getting in touch with what you
really need experience.
This is day 26.
In this final live recording, I
talk more about how I feel
nourished, clearer, and show
physical signs of being healthy.
I also talk about how I cope
with a major emotional trigger
without sugar.
And this is day 26.
This is my last recording, and
it's been quite the month.
I I part of me doesn't believe
I've actually made it all the
way through, and the other part
of me is really proud that I've
made it all the way through.
So there's two things that I
want to tell you about today.
I haven't spoken to you for a
week and a half.
Um, and there's two sides to
what I want to be honest about
today, and to finish with today.
And one side of it is feeling
really good, feeling really
healthy, feeling, I mean, look
at my skin, it looks clearer.
I think my eyes look clearer.
I I just I feel better.
And so I can testify to the
physical effects of not having
sugar, refined sugar, not having
alcohol have been really good
for me, emotionally as well as
physically.
Um and just as I was talking
about last time, one detox has
led to another.
So I started with just unrefined
sugar, that I was uh cutting out
refined sugar from my diet.
That led to me wanting to give
up caffeine because I was
becoming so much more mindful
about what was going on in my
body and what would help me,
what would actually not help me,
really.
So I stopped drinking caffeine.
I've stopped eating any kind of
caffeine chocolate, and that has
made me feel so much calmer and
in control and clearer in my
mind.
I really like that, I've got to
say.
That's that's been feeling
empowered.
And then that lead to me wanting
led to me wanting to exercise.
That was the next thing.
So I started exercise last week
and loved it, loved going back
to exercise.
Um, again, I think it's one of
those habits that possibly after
two weeks I might think this is
not as interesting as it was.
But I still feel more motivated,
so I imagine I will carry on
exercising.
That's what I'm hoping for,
right?
You've got to visualize the
best.
And then I started giving up
other things.
So then I was just getting so
much more mindful of what I
actually want in life and what
I'm putting into my body and how
I'm treating myself.
I almost stopped watching
television.
This is like wow, never heard of
really, because I was brought up
on television.
That was the first comfort I
ever had, I reckon.
And uh yeah, my mother was a
single mother, she stuck me in
front of the television because
she worked all the time, and so
I it's a massive comfort blanket
for me.
But I've stopped watching it so
much.
I do still watch it probably
about two hours a week, which is
hardly anything, I think.
Um, but I'm just not as
interested.
And what I do watch, I'm really
interested in.
So it feels nourishing rather
than just mindlessly watching
something because I haven't got
anything better to do, which I
realized I'd fallen into.
I again was brainwashing myself
into thinking I needed this
thing to wind down.
I don't need it.
Turns out I can wind down in
other ways, actually, and
they're more effective and
quicker.
So that's the first thing to
tell you that of all the
positive effects and the
knock-on effect of me feeling
quite good and doing other
things that feel quite good.
The other side of this coin is
just ridiculously good timing
for me to be able to tell you
about this.
I had the greatest challenge
with this week because something
dramatic happened to me in my
personal life.
Something really, really
triggered me this week.
Not into the worst of the
triggering that I'm aware of in
my life.
I've I've felt worse.
Um, but but something happened
that really upset me this week,
some relational difficulty that
that really bothered me, and if
I'm honest, is still bothering
me.
So I really got to put to the
test, wanting or not wanting
comfort, and sticking by how I
really feel and managing my
emotion in a different way to
comfort food.
And um, I you know, I even went
so far as to have a dream, I had
this dream about a cream donut,
and it was the most gorgeous
thing that I could possibly have
imagined.
But when I woke up, I'm like, oh
no, I don't actually want that.
But somewhere in my psyche,
that's what I wanted, that's
what I thought would make me
feel better.
So just to let you know that the
food did come up, it was
difficult.
Um, but I just kept sticking by
what I know about emotion.
What I know is that if I stay
with it and feel through it, it
is gonna pass, and I'm probably
gonna find something better to
comfort myself with.
So I really did that with this
situation, and knowing what I
do, I knew or doing what I do, I
knew that I was in fight or
flight, so I knew that I had to
calm down.
This took me a while, um, but I
but staying with it, I did
actually manage to calm down
from fight or flight.
That led to me making some good
decisions and opening up a bit
more with this person that I was
having difficulty with and
finding a way to be
compassionate about them.
Um compassionate for both of us,
actually.
It was so difficult.
It was so difficult because my
teenager, I talked about my
child last week, but this time
my teenager was up and indignant
and furious about something, and
I can do my own work on working
out where that comes from in my
teenage years and what that
relates to for me.
I don't need to tell you that.
Um, but it it does, it does
relate to something in my
history.
It is something that was
triggered for me.
Uh, it is a sensitive subject
that I have lots of feelings
about and lots of messages and
lots of beliefs and lots of
complication and sensitivity
around.
Um, so I had to be kind to all
of that.
I had to look after all of that
and calm myself down from it.
Um and it's worked.
You know, I still haven't eaten
chocolate, still don't want it,
still exercising, still not
interested in television, still
quite aware that none of those
things are gonna get me through
the problem.
And slowly but surely I'm
getting through the problem in a
different way, and I'm finding
myself coming back and coming
back to asserting what I need,
asserting how I feel in a
compassionate and kind and calm
way.
I think that's the key to all
relationship for me.
It may or may not be for others,
but I can certainly recommend it
because it makes me feel happier
and more empowered.
And I don't think I would have
arrived at that if I'd had a
drink, had some sugar, went into
all the comforts.
Another comfort can be trying to
get somebody else to comfort me.
But really, I feel like we need
to do this for ourselves.
Obviously, it's important to
have relationships where you can
find comfort as well and
support, and to have good,
supportive, lovely
relationships.
Um, and with the isolation at
the moment, so many of us are
lacking in that co-regulation
with people, and it is important
to have that.
We are social creatures, we need
that.
But it is also, I think,
extremely powerful and probably
quite important to be able to
comfort yourself without all the
external things, without other
people, without substances.
And so that's what I've been
trying to prove to you this
month.
I've done it for 26 days, I'm
gonna still carry on doing it
for the weekend, and then I
probably won't have any more
sugary chocolate for a long time
until it just happens to uh
cross my path.
Probably I certainly won't be
buying it because I just don't
fancy it really anymore.
It doesn't feel like it helps,
and I have really found my way
more than I ever did.
I've reaffirmed my way of
finding a way through emotion.
I know that's gonna sound
difficult to some people who are
watching, and I guess I just
want to really reassure you that
it is possible.
It it is possibly painful,
possibly lengthy, plus it
possibly takes some work and
awareness and research and
lateral thinking and opening a
mind.
But it is possible to deal with
emotion in a different way, no
matter how painful, no matter
how traumatic.
It is possible to learn this
skill of working through emotion
and understanding what you
really need.
In summary, these are the tips
in this podcast about how I cope
with giving up a comfort food in
this last podcast in the series.
Be aware that you might feel
less interested after 14 days of
any new habit, so renew and
revisit your skills and your
tools.
Acknowledge the rebellious or
petulant inner child in you that
wants, expects, and even demands
comfort food.
Acknowledge the self-punishing
inner teenager who takes anger
out on themselves.
Locate the adult in you that has
a better way to deal with
needing comfort.
Get these different parts
talking with each other.
Stay in the mode of surrendering
to how you feel instead of
turning to a comfort substance.
Walk yourself through emotion to
find the comfort that you really
need, even if it takes time and
lots of different skills.
Focus on getting through this
problem differently and regulate
your nervous system.
I have talked about
self-regulation before, so there
will be a link to my previous
podcasts in the notes for this
podcast.
So that's the end of my live
reports about giving up a
comfort substance, although I
may give you reports
occasionally on how I'm doing
still.
I want to tell you what it's
been like since I finished this
experiment.
So on one occasion I did have a
couple of glasses of wine, but
the thing that struck out to me
and something that I had never
noticed before, is it really
felt like I was spooning sugar
into my mouth.
I could really taste the sugar
in the wine which I'd never
tasted before.
So that was really interesting
to me, and I think it might have
put me off wine until I forget
that that's what it's like.
And that's one of the points
I've been trying to make really.
I've been consistently mindful
about what's going on in my body
and how these things affect me,
and not turning a blind eye when
I taste that sugar and don't
like it.
So, what's also happened is I've
realised that I brainwashed
myself into thinking that I
really needed or should have
that alcohol at the end of my
detox.
It was so tricky because there
was a new part of me that really
didn't want it and knew that it
would mess up this glorious new
feeling that I had of feeling
nourished, rehydrated, and well.
But there was also the old
addicted habitual part of me
that fell into the habit of
having wine with a friend who I
associate with drinking.
I've known this friend for over
30 years and we bonded over
drinking wine through Italy on
an art history degree as
students.
The great thing though was that
my friend and I were able to
actually have this conversation.
Amazingly, we both realised that
we'd gone back to old habits
because we had both stopped
drinking recently and had felt
the benefit.
We decided not to drink next
time we meet, so I'm now looking
forward to both of us being able
to comfort and enjoy ourselves
and each other without the wine.
What I feel I've got from this
whole journey is renewing and
reconfirming a sense of moving
through the brainwashing of
thinking that I need sugar to be
okay.
And reassuring myself and
enjoying life in other ways.
Giving up just one comfort
substance has also led to me
organically choosing to reduce
other comfort substances across
the board.
This has meant that I found a
way through emotional triggering
and habitual patterning to a
sense of calm, clarity of mind,
physical well-being, and a
feeling of personal empowerment.
What I want to leave you with
today is the thought that
although this process may not be
as quick for you, I've been
teaching this stuff for decades,
it is definitely possible.
One step at a time.
So much for listening.
I'll see you next Wednesday.