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SPEAKER_00: Hi, this is Shelly
Treacher from Underground
Confidence.
Today I'm going to carry on
talking about how you can get
control back of your eating.
Today I'm going to talk about
overwhelm because this is
something that can make your
eating go out of control really
quickly.
I have these words that have
been sent to me.
See if you can relate to this.
She says, I want to learn how to
recover for real and for good.
I can stay on a plan for a
couple of months and then my
emotions overwhelm me, and I
cave to the comfort of
overeating.
This is an extremely common
reason for comfort eating.
I think of overwhelm as having
too many emotions and thoughts
at once.
Having too many emotions at once
is the comfort eater's
nightmare.
Not knowing how to deal with one
emotion is hard enough, but
having more than one, having
sadness or anger or frustration,
irritation all at once, way too
overwhelming.
So eating is a much easier
option, right?
The Merriam-Webster definition
of overwhelm is to have too many
things to deal with.
Once again, that is the comfort
eaters' realm.
The comfort eaters that I work
with all have way too much to
do.
I'll talk a little bit more
about what that actually is and
what's underneath that, but for
now let's carry on talking about
what overwhelm is.
There could be physical or
emotional signs of overwhelm.
I think of overwhelm as having a
kind of a blank brain and not
really having the capacity to do
what we can normally do quite
easily, finding it difficult to
manage, or being unable to think
straight, having an unclear
brain.
Of course, my experience is that
this could be confused with
menopause.
But to be fair, overwhelm is
quite common in menopause, so
you could be experiencing both.
But what overwhelm actually is,
is the nervous system's response
to there being too much.
So it's its attempt to shut down
and give you a break.
It's the defense system kicking
in.
If we have a look at something
that's been illustrated as the
window of tolerance, it's quite
easy to see how if we go out of
our window of tolerance, we
might become overwhelmed.
Inside your window of tolerance,
we all have a window, a limited
window of tolerance.
Some of us have a big level of
tolerance, but we all have a
limit.
Anyway, inside that is your
comfort zone where you feel
okay, you can cope with life,
you can do what you normally do
and get on with what you
normally get on with.
You have the ability to
self-soothe, you have the
ability to just calmly,
neutrally get on with the day.
You might feel some kind of
stress and pressure, but it
doesn't really bother you so
much.
This is the ideal place for us
to be, and a lot of the
techniques that I talk about are
designed to get you back into
that window of tolerance.
We can go out of our window of
tolerance when something bothers
us enough to push us out.
This is usually caused by some
kind of thought, something that
happens in the world, or some
kind of belief that you have.
Or it could be caused by a body
sensation.
According to the illustration,
there's typically two ways that
we can go out of our window of
tolerance.
One of them is dissociation,
blanking out, numbness.
The other way is to feel a fight
or flight response which might
cause overwhelm.
All of this can really shrink
your tolerance level.
I talked in a previous podcast
about anxiety.
This is, of course, another
major contributor to overwhelm.
It's important to note at this
point that you can't really stop
this from happening.
This fight or flight response,
this overwhelm, is something
that your physiological system
will just automatically choose
when it feels threatened.
But you can get a handle on it
and work backwards to understand
what's going on.
I think of anxiety and overwhelm
as future thinking rather than
present thinking.
Often what I see has happened is
that clients have gone into
their brains, especially in
worrying about something in the
future or about a belief stress
system that they have that puts
them down in some way.
So they've gone into their minds
to try and solve the problem.
Another version of being
overwhelmed is panic.
Have you ever had that feeling
of doom inside you and you're
not even sure why?
This might be the overwhelm or
the worry or the panic setting
in.
And it may not even belong to
the current situation, it might
be a trigger from something
else.
Merriam Webster carries on to
describe overwhelm as to defeat
someone or something completely.
Often in overwhelm, we might
overreact.
Which has left a lot of us
feeling some kind of loneliness.
And some people are experiencing
more of a codependent experience
with their relationships than
they would have before.
Where now they're relying on
just one or two people for
everything.
Whereas before, they had a whole
host of people to do lots of
different things with.
At first, I remember everybody
was really relieved, or a lot of
people were really relieved at
the beginning of the pandemic,
to scale back, to not have to do
so many things, to claim back
their energy and to put their
energy into things that really
mattered.
I do think that was extremely
important for us.
And I do think it was a response
to the threat and a way to
survive, something extremely
difficult for us to cope with.
And it worked really well.
But I'm now seeing the negative
side of that, where people are
in their comfort zones and not
quite so prepared to go out of
them and not really knowing how
to anymore.
Another thing that might tie in
with this and is a huge
contributor to overwhelm is just
being a sensitive person.
A lot of clients I see, a lot of
comfort eaters, are very
empathic people who feel what
other people feel without trying
to.
They walk into a room and they
can feel where the tension is.
They walk to a meeting and they
know where the conflict is and
they feel it.
This is an incredible gift if
you happen to be able to use it
in your job or in your life, in
your relationships.
It can be extremely useful to
know what's going on with
people.
However, of course, it can be
extremely debilitating as well
if you don't know how to
separate emotionally.
That's another way that
overwhelm can come.
I personally know how this one
feels.
I don't think any therapist
could do my job without knowing
how to be empathic.
I am someone who needs a lot of
space and time to process
things.
I would argue that we all do,
but maybe I'm just aware of it
because of my job.
But so I can feel overwhelmed
quite easily.
I can feel my brain go blank.
It actually happens a lot while
I'm trying to record this
podcast.
It's happening right now.
But what happens to me is I
suddenly start to get short of
breath.
I start to stumble on my words,
see I'm stumbling on my words
now, I start to stumble on my
words, and I cannot get the
right syllables out.
So this is quite off like
kicking in, and behind that is a
voice that says, You're not
doing good enough.
Which is of course extremely
familiar for the comfort eater.
The comfort eater might have
that as a belief, might have had
that growing up from childhood,
might have interpreted whatever
their caregivers or parents uh
did or said to them as them
being not good enough if they
didn't have enough attention, if
they were criticized, if they
were utterly neglected, they
might have grown up feeling like
they weren't good enough, and so
probably try to do too much now.
So overwhelm just comes with the
territory of a comfort eater,
unfortunately.
So what we all have to learn to
do is to slow down, to learn to
ride the wave of what happens
when something slows down.
Maybe check what kind of a
response you're having now that
I've slowed down.
Check your body, your physical
response.
Do you feel yourself calming
down?
Or are you getting slightly
nervous?
I know that's entirely possible,
for the comfort eater to slow
down is really frightening.
Who knows what emotion you're
gonna have, huh?
As well as slowing down, what's
gonna help is staying in the
present instead of worrying
about the future and trying to
name what's going on for you.
Trying to unpack what is
involved in that overwhelm,
because there's gonna be more
than one thing.
Allowing whatever comes up, even
if it's tears, even if it's
anger, and allowing yourself
rest.
That's something that the
comfort eater, the overeater,
the overscheduler doesn't really
get much of, but is in desperate
need of, and that may be why
you're overwhelmed in the first
place.
I talked a little bit about this
when I talked about binge eating
in the evening.
This is one of my first, like my
third or fourth podcast, I
think.
This is something that happens,
I think, particularly for people
who do binge eat in the evening,
and I've got to say most people
I who come to me do binge eat in
the evening.
They often work really hard all
day, starve themselves, feel
good about starving themselves,
and then scoff loads of food in
the evening.
I'm not averse to this myself.
It's really easily done because
uh with our culture, especially
in England right now, things are
really tough.
Money is tight, people are
working harder and harder than
ever, so self-care is needed
more than ever.
But this is what's happening
with binge eating in the
evening.
We go into the fight part of
fight or flight in the daytime,
we push through, we're
motivated, we get all the work
done, we please everybody.
And then in the evening, there's
nothing left for us.
We're exhausted and fed up
probably.
So you start eating.
Away from that binge eating
though, and away from the
overwhelm.
See if you can slow down and
start to trace back what all the
different feelings were.
Name them one by one.
Name the feelings, name the
thoughts, name the beliefs, and
name the judgments.
Have different columns on your
worksheet for these.
Anger, fear, hurt, they're all
separate, and they come from a
different belief, like I'm not
good enough.
Or from different judgments and
self-criticisms, like I just
didn't do very well today, I'm
not happy with my performance.
Or if you got criticized by a
boss or felt criticized by a
boss, you're going to be having
some kind of thought and some
kind of belief that makes that
worse.
Oh, I knew I was no good.
It's just proof, and you can
perpetuate that on and on, and
then eating more will perpetuate
that too.
But here you're letting somebody
else decide who you are and what
your worth is.
These sometimes fictitious
people also get to decide
whether you have any needs at
all.
I've known a lot of comfort
eaters come and see me who don't
even let themselves go to the
toilet in between things.
They hold on and hold on.
So the solution is going to be
learning to say yes and no
differently and starting to
allow you to be the one who
decides when your needs get met,
how to have needs even, and
being less hard on yourself.
This always comes back to the
self-critic.
Other things that can help with
overwhelm, particularly in the
moment, are physical activity or
touch or soothing.
Being creative is also quite a
good outlet.
You might need to go the
opposite.
You might need to just let
yourself check out, particularly
if you're in a meeting where you
know you're gonna get triggered.
Just let yourself check out a
little bit.
Maybe you'll you probably
already do this, right?
But just have be having the mild
thoughts of your needs are
important, nobody around me
thinks they are, but I need to
think that.
This is new.
I have to be looking after
myself.
None of these people are gonna
do that for me.
That's really all I want to talk
about today.
Next week leads on from this,
I'm gonna start to talk about
happiness.
But what I've talked about today
is overwhelm.
How overwhelm is the fight or
flight response and often comes
from anxiety or having too many
emotions and self-critical
thoughts.
The ways to deal with overwhelm
are to start looking after
yourself, both in the bigger
picture, longer term, looking at
your life, and also in the
moment.
You may need to check out, you
may need physical touch, you may
need something else that looks
after you.
And you may need to understand
what the thought process is that
leads you into this.
I had a lovely example recently
in one of my groups where we
looked at the experience of
shame and overwhelm.
Somebody felt really ashamed and
overwhelmed.
You know that hot, awful heat
that you feel inside your torso
when you feel shame and in your
face and your head, the red heat
and the just the feeling of
dread and downness.
We were talking about how you
can trace back how you feel.
So she traced back from that
dreadful feeling to what the
thought was just before she
started feeling that.
And she traced back delicately,
one by one, all these little
self-critical fears.
And we worked out that she went
from I'm gonna be okay, oh god,
there's too many people here,
no, I'm gonna be okay, to I'm
not okay.
Everybody's looking at me, I'm
not doing the right thing here,
I feel too old.
Lots and lots of self-criticisms
that just crept in.
Even though on one level she was
thinking, no, I'm fine, I'm
fine, I'm beautiful, I'm
vibrant, I've got all these
skills, I know what I'm doing.
But on some level her child was
just sinking lower and lower.
These are the things you're
gonna find behind any overwhelm,
any feelings, any difficulty
that you're having.
And it's all gonna trace back to
a belief.
For her, the belief was that she
wasn't good enough.
And just talking that out loud
to a group of six people who had
a huge amount of love and
compassion for her, she
understood that she'd been doing
this to herself and didn't need
to.
Because there's nothing wrong
with her.
She was lovely.
This is the kind of thing that
you can find in my groups.
If you're looking for help with
overwhelm or one of the many
causes for overeating, I'd love
to help.
So please check out my program.
But that's it for me today.
I would really love to hear your
comments and questions, so
please, please, please keep
sending them in.
Every single thing that you say
is useful, helpful, supportive
to somebody else.
Thank you.
As I say, next week I'll be
talking about happiness and how
that's really important with
comfort eating.
But until then, have a lovely
week.
I'll see you on Wednesday.
This is Underground Confidence
with Shelly Treacher.